Eragon (Theories)
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Eragon's Heritage
Sorry, but I don't think that Eragon's mum is Arya. In ERAGON it says that SELENA came and gave birth to Eragon in Carvahall so I don't see how Arya is his mom. I really do think that Morzan was his father as it creates more drama to the story and it just makes sense. Brom would have told Eragon on hid deathbed that he was his father as well. ~saphira bjartskular
- Galbatorix could have fed Murtagh false information on Eragon's father. Some fans believe that Eragon's father is actually Brom, because of the fortune telling that Angela gave Brom. People say that because the fortune said that Brom's love life was doomed, he could have met Selena while she was fleeing from Morzan, fell in love with her, and perhaps had Eragon.
- I believe brom is eragon's father as well, but not for the same reason. Murtagh and Eragon do share mothers, but the book never said that she was already pregnant when she disappeared. I believe she and brom had eragon when she disappeared to carvahal. - Joseph Davison
I agree those are good points but another one is why would Selena fear for Eragons life and take him to carvahall? (beside Morzan being a phyco) What would anger Morzan more than his wife cheating with his arch enemy (brom) and worse having a baby, if i were a crazed phyco forsworn rider at the time i would probably kill Selena and Eragon. - Luke Dinon
This may be crazy but could there be a chance that Arya is Eragon's mother? I mean, Brom's got the yawe ring and such. And Arya's like...non Eragon I ain't to you dude! Okay...yeah it is crazy.
way wrong dude arya no Eragons MAMA its says in book.
I agree, Brom is Eragons father.
I don't think Arya is eragons mum. 1. angela spoke of a great romance and i don't think that could be nasuada, so unless there is a new character introduced in book III or IV, then it is most likely Arya. 2.It does clearly state that Selena is eragons mother. I also don't think brom is eragon's father. 1. [quote] pg 102, eragon (when brom gives Zar'roc to eragon), "where did you get it?" "it doesn't matter, I will only say that it that it took me a series of nasty and dangerous avents to attain it. cosider it yours. you have more of a claim to it than i do..... this suggests that the blade is rightfully eragons. however it can also be evidence in the favour of brom, being rightfully eragons, because he wouldn't be carrying the guilt of slaying the last dragon. 2. [exerpt] pg 102, eragon. the sword fit eragons hand as hough it had been made for him. this suggests that Zar'roc, being Morzans sword, would have felt natural and comfortable in eragons hand if he was Morzans son. Not forgetting, that the elves made the swords for the paticular dragon riders, it would have been made for morzans build, wieght and muscle, which eragon inherited from him (the inheritance trilogy.... - thenewrider
Sorry there but i don't think arya is eragon's mum, because elves barely have children and if they do then they would stay with them forever and but nice theory i have never seen on that says that. Worldofwarcraftrulez
Umm......This is going to sound completely crazy and nutty, but I actually want Morzan to be Eragon's father, and it does show a lot of similarties in their type. I just don't think that Brom could be Eragon's father, and I think everyone who thinks that isn't reading far enough into the story, and only reading what they want to read. I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel, live with it. -Eilish.
Arya definatly cant be the mother of Eragon, Salena was in Palencar valley when she had Eragon, and she would have been supervised while there, so there is no dought that Salena is Eragon's mother.-Leon
Not that this has much of an effect on anything, but IF Brom was Eragon's father, Eragon and his father would have blue dragons and Murtagh and his father would have red dragons (plus fathers and sons would be enemies to each other.) On top of that, assuming that Eragon's next sword is Brom's (popular belief), both sons would have their father's swords. -Vanillaface
Which kinda slides into INHERITANCE (for those of u with coins for brains, it's the inheritance trilogy) AFM
Brom can't be Eragon's father because Murtaugh swore in the ancient language that morzan was Eragon's father. And arya can't be his mother because he knows that Selena is his mother. -eragon's twin
brom can be eragons father, murtagh saying it in the ancient language just means that he believes its true not that it is.--eragon1301
correct me if im wrong but in eragon brom said that all elves know there true names right? And now that eragon is an elf shouldnt he know his true name too? 24.36.50.20 17:08, 18 April 2007 (PDT)ill
He is still human. He is fairer than any human, but more rugged than any elf. He still doesn't have their flexibility, although he does have their strength and speed. AFM
Umm Amf what does that have to do with anything. If Arya is his mother he should be an elf, u guys are about as smart as ogres
They said Eragon IS an elf. Eragon is just LIKE an elf. AFM
Eragon is not an elf. he is 100% human.think back on what Oromis said regarding the decline of the three races dragons, humans, and elves. because humans were added to the spell later, the spell has had less time to work on them altough it has softened them from the brutes that fist landed on Alagaesia. this presumably means the same thing would happen to appearance and magical ability if it was givin enough time( assuming the dragons arnt almost extinct.-Leon
Brom cannot be Eragons dad because Murtagh said in the ancient language,Morzan is our father, and you cant lie in the ancient language!!!!!!!!! - Anonymous
It's not lying if you believe what you're saying is true!!!!!!! (remember The Blood Oath Celebration and Eragon's poem???) AFM
wow, i thought the whole "cant lie in the AL" conversation was over-Leon
i dont understand y u ppl think that morzan isnt eragons dad why cant u guys comprehend some misfortune? u guys r tryin 2 make this book turn out like a carebears cartoon where everything turns out perfect when we all kno it wont. or hav u all forgot the part in eragon where the elves board the ship and theirs one1 cryin on the beach -Patteh
I'm not against misfortune..... however, there is no evidence other than his mom's marriage that Morzan is the father..... That's big, but she was gone for awhile around when Eragon would be conceived and born..... there's a lot more evidence for Brom..... look at evidence, not what you think we want..... AFM
ok but also im the one that pionted out the most evidece for brom and i still dont think that its right do u really think that brom would be foolin around with his arch enemys wife? come on!-Patteh
No one actually said that morzan and selena r married! They might have been a girlfriend and boyfriend relationship.Nd do u think a relationship with a monster could have lasted long?I'm sure dat selena comes to her senses when she knew wat morzan does nd met brom.Anyway, arya could'nt be eragon's mother.If she is, eragon would have the abilities of an elf ages ago.So i'm not buying the idea.-Eragon ShadeHunter
Of corse eragons not aryas son thats just wried hopeful thinking with no evidence to support it and alot against it. and while however nice the idea of brom being eragons father i dont think its right, then the whole murtagh is eragons evil half senario with the mirror images wouldnt work (i kno murtaghs not evil but for now he is, willingly or not) and i like that idea, it works and makes u think. -Patteh
I think Eragons father is really Brom. To me it would be more likely. If you look at the riddle blagden told and also at this sentance told by him. "Father and son alike both blind as bats". Morzan was never blind but Brom was blinded in his faith of Morzan. Also Blagdens riddle makes me think that while Eragon and Murtagh may share the same mother they have diffrent fathers. This would make them only half-brothers. So therefore Murtagh thought Morzan was also Morzan's son they just share the same mother. Sorry i dont have any page numbers. (Elvensmith)
o...k.... but how was eragon blinded?
he was blinded in his friendship of murtaugh-Leon
Yeah, and Murtagh and Morzan both betrayed their best friends (willingly or unwillingly as it was in Murtaghs case). -Hot Elf Babe
There is a chance Morzan isn't Eragon's father, due to this statement from Eldest: "Besides, Zar'roc should have gone to Morzan’s eldest son, not his youngest. It is mine by right of birth.’ A cold pit formed in Eragon’s stomach. It can’t be. A cruel smile appeared on Murtagh’s face. ‘I never told you my mother’s name, did I? And you never told me yours. I’ll say it now: Selena. Selena was my mother and your mother. Morzan was our father". Morzan may have had a son younger than Murtagh. And when murtagh says Selena was their mothers name, she could have had another 'husband', say Brom or possibly Oromis. Murtagh just made a false assumption when he said 'Morzan was our father'.-Anonymous
i dont think you could call eragon blinded in his friendship with murtagh, i mean brom was blinded because his adoring of morzan was used to morzans advantage willangly and creuly, while eragon and murtagh were equals in friendship and murtagh didnt do anything creul or willangly to hurt eragon. -Patteh
it doesnt matter if it is willingly or not, Murtaugh betrayed Eragons trust when he joined up with Galbatorix-Leon
Also Eragon was blind when the elves were getting ready to help the varden after the battle on the Burning Planes. (Elvensmith)
yea, but that has nothing to do with morzan and brom-Leon
Sorry to be the Punctuation/Spelling Police, but has anybody actually read the top of this page? You know, right where it says, "Please try to keep your replies grammatically correct with capitalization, punctuation, and correct spelling. Do not use chatspeak please."? -theRandomPoster-
Why must the blindness have anything whatsoever to do with either Morzan or Brom? Blagden never said "Father and son alike, both as blind as bats when it comes to their fathers and/or Morzan." He said they were both blind as bats, so they could both be blind in any way. Also, Selena is obviously Eragon's mother. No argument there. So let's stop coming up with random theories about his mother, please? As for his father, I feel that it's got to be Brom. It must be a human (because Eragon did not inherit elvish abilities) and the most likely choices are Morzan and Brom. Of course, Murtagh never gave any evidence for Morzan being Eragon's father. I think the last Anonymous up there was correct when s/he said that Morzan probably jumped to conclusions because they have the same mother. So there is no guarantee that it is Morzan. My money's on Brom. -Kali-
Does'nt Eragon learn that Morzan would best Brom at neaqrly anything!I think that Brom met Selena when he met Morzan before the Fall and they fell in love at first sight.Morzan didn't exactly care for her and she probably seized the chance to escape and start a new life with Brom,who she knew would love her much more than Morzan.Angela tells Eragon that Brom's lover left him because of his affection for her.I don't know what that means except that when Brom defeated Morzan she knew that he wouldn" harass her any more and she wanted to spend time with Murtagh.I know it might sound stupid.-Eragonshadeslayer
um, why exactly do you think morzan is an elf kali?-Leon
I agree with you mostly Kali but the riddle has to do with Brom if you belive he is Eragons father. This is just another clue as to who the father is.-Darksmithy (Not to be mistaken with Elvensmithy)
I would say that Selena left Carvahall because Brom followed her there. (Just adding to Eragonshadeslayer).- the very very wise
morzan never came out and said "we share the same father" he said something along the lines of zarroc should go to the eldest son, not the youngest. all he said was an opinion. remember, you can use loopholes in the AL. - DWAYNE
he said that Selena was his mother though, so its really about if you think Selena had Eragon w/someone else-Leon
Brom saying "I knew her enough to miss her when she was gone." That just creates a whole lot uncertainty of who is REAL father is. I could still be Morzan. But then again, it doesn't have to be. Itr also says that his affection for a woman was eventually her downfall. It leaves a WHOLE FREAKIN' LOT OF DOUBT! A WHOLE LOT! Just think about it...--Anna
Whenever I read the theories that are posted everywhere, it makes me wonder if they affect how CP writes. I mean, if most of the more popular theories (Brom is Eragon's father, Arya will be the rider of the green dragon etc.) were correct, what kind of books would book III and IIII be? Pretty disappointing and horrid writing, I presume. ChrisTY
Okay, mod's thought here (and, as I am 100% sure on this one, you may all throw bananas at me if I'm wrong). Selene and Morzan are Eragon's parents.
- Now, first, we must remember that Paolini is not the most imaginative guy, at least compared to most authors. His world is LotR and his story is Stars Wars. Regardless if you say he's following the Hero's Path, in the end, Eragon is still an orphaned initiate of a ancient order living with his uncle. Now, stretch your imagination, all of you who have seen Star Wars, and imagine Luke's father (Darth Vader) was once a good member of this order (the Jedi) that his son (Luke) joins years later, only he became evil and the right hand of an even eviler emperor. Actually, that happened, no imagination needed. In Eldest, Murtagh makes the claim that Eragon's father (Morzan) was once a good member of this order (the Riders) that his son (Eragon) joins years later, only he became evil and the right hand of an even eviler emperor. Paolini's only original thought (whether you argue that he carbon-copied Star Wars or the Hero's Path) was to throw Murtagh into the mix. As Morzan is dead and Darth Vader was not, Murtagh merely serves to be the living part of Eragon's family and the Riders that went over to Galbatorix.
- Alright. Glad that's over.
- Knowing Paolini, we must also realize that when Murtagh said that Eragon was Morzan's son and Murtagh his brother, Paolini meant it to be this big, mind-blowing revelation. He did, after all, name an entire book after it, Murtagh being the "Eldest". Now, if Murtagh was lying, the fact remains that he only lied in the last twenty pages of the book and then disappeared. I certainly wouldn't consider that meaningful enough to name an entire book after it - Eragon really hasn't struggled with the idea enough for it to matter in the grand scheme of things. But if it was true, then it was the book's grand revelation. If it was true, then Paolini was working up to this revelation the entire book and had been planning it to happen in exactly that point for the entire trilogy (we may also remember that it was in the Second Star Wars that Luke is told that Darth Vader is his father). That would certainly be worth naming an entire book after. But an off-hand lie, not so much.
- In fact, I can't really see ANY reason to argue that Brom is Eragon's father - other than being insanely hopeful and not wanting to believe that your hero was fathered by a villain, which, again, is not so uncommon in literature. If you have theories, I really want to read them though!!! I mean, if it turns out there's evidence that I've missed... please, please, post!
- I agree that it is possible that Brom felt something for Selena - again, not uncommon in literature - but I doubt it ever came to anything. In fact, having never fulfilled his love for Selena he might have been driven to do anything to save her son - including teaching him how to be a Rider. Now, I might be crazy, but if I had such a long span of time to spend with my long lost son, who did not know that I was his father, I might possibly just let it slip that I'm his father. What possibly reason could Brom have for holding out? Especially in when he died - his last seven words weren't, "I must tell you, I'm your father!".
- As for the color of dragons... dragon's come in all shapes and sizes. And colors. I think that the color of Eragon's, Brom's, Murtagh's, and Morzan's dragons are more an attempt at symbolism than a hint to Eragon's true heritage. Paolini is symbolizing their temperament - Murtagh and Morzan are evil and easily given to anger, and so their dragons are red. Brom and Eragon are good and want peace, so their dragons are blue. It's a slightly skewed verson of the White Knight and the Black Knight. Of course, by all the laws of Paolini's universe, the color of the dragon is the color of the dragon, and heritage and temperament shouldn't affect it, but as an author he's using it symbolically.
- Okay. If anyone actually read all that, they deserve gold stars. Or something yellow and shiny. O.o. -Cate .
Okay well I don't know how many people will read this but well here it goes. In Eldest (page 546) Blagden the raven calls out to Eragon. Eragon does not understand what he says even after Blagden repeats it several times. Here he states 'Son and father alike, both as blind as bats.' Eragon then says, 'Wait! Do you know my father? Who is he?'
Blagden answers in this easy-yet-tricky riddle, 'While two may share two, And one of two is certainly one, One might be two.'
I thought on this for a while, since we all know that anything the bird says is true. This is my verson of the riddle and how it came out to me after I finished the book - 'While Selena and Morzan may share Eragon and Murtagh, And Selena is certainly the mother of them both, Morzan might be the second parent.'
This doesn't really mean that Brom (or anyone else) is Eragon's father but it certainly makes me question that Morzan is really Eragon's father! I don't know how convincing that was but it work on all my friends since I was the only one of like ten that came up with this! --~I~Love~Murtagh~
Ok everyone knows that the inheritance cycle is loosely based upon star wars right? So Luke= Eragon DarthVader= Morzan Yoda=Brom. So yoda(BRrom) teaches Luke (Eragon) and then dies. We find out that DArth Vader(morzan) is Luke's (Eragon) father!!! - awesome theory guy
I agree with the above theory with one exception to the Star Wars correlations: Brom isn't Yoda, Oromis is. Brom is more of a Ben Kenobi in my mind, with Oromis being the master who has lived in hiding-instead of being aqainted with Eragon from the start.
This corresponds to the 'While Selena and Morzan may share Eragon and Murtagh, And Selena is certainly the mother of them both, Morzan might be the second parent.' above: Why would Blagden say that Morzan is Eragon and Murtagh's father two times? And, with your version of the riddle, both times he mentions Morzan he says may and might, but Selena is certain. That seems to put Morzan in doubt even more. --ChrisTYbjartskular 19:20, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Razaac's Deaths (And Eragon's Hand In Them)
I don't know how to create a category here, if you even can, but something I've always wanted to discuss was the Razaac's Deaths. We know that the goes to their lair and is attacked by a Letherblaka somewhere in the third (i think third) chapter of Book 3. What we can infer from the last 2 or 3 paragraphs, Eragon goes unconcious. Now, I would believe from that point on, Eragon gets drugged and has to kill them with magic without using the AL, since CP put so much of that into Book 3..... Now what do y'all think????????????????? AFM
just read it. i dont think the razac would be able drug Eragon in the first place. i think he would still be able to use magic to defend himself as he is.-Leon
If I interepreted right, he's fading from consciousness. They'll drug him while asleep, but I bet he'll use magic while drugged to kill them, or at least to free himself. AFM
i dont know. its possible that he was losing consciousness, but he might have just been stuned.-Leon
besides, it's foreshadowed that he'll have to do it at some point. And we know it won't be against Galby. Besides, it's very dramatic..... AFM
what makes you think it wont be against galbatorix.-Leon
I don't know why I wrote that.... hindsight is 20/20. I was probably thinking that Galby could read his mind and predict it and kill Eragon first. AFM
ive got a question, i just got my laptop fixed so thats why im so late in catching this, but who is using my name(or has it just been so long ive forgoten what i wrote?)-Leon
Ok i want to know remember when blagen said bloody brooks and broken crooks or somthing like that well does that mean somthing will happen on helgring like.......roran would well fall off the cliff or the razac would be killed because either way someone or something is going to die on helgrind wheather it be katrina,roran,1 or both of the razac, or either of the lebrethlaka. -dragonrider3
I found that a crook is a tool that has something bent in it... such as a shepherds staff. A brook is a very small stream. So the final battle in the last book may be something to do with a river... But I think maybe its roran who slays galbatorix. in Eldest he says to clovis "the barge man in teirm", `these are my flock and I am their shepherd`. This proves my point that Galbatorix will be killed by Roran.- Lord Hibbert, Ta
If a crook is a broken tool, then maybe Blagden is refering to what is happening in Carvahall at that point in time. The villagers must have broken a few tools fighting the Ra'zac and bloody brooks may mean the people who were killed. --ChrisTYbjartskular 19:25, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Eragon Leaving Alagaesia Forever
I've always wanted to discuss Eragon leaving Alagaesia forever. I know it seems like a statement that is completely clear, no twists or turns, and no possible blanks to fill in with mindless theories BUT! I think I have one! In Eragon doesn't Brom say something about not being able to lie in the AL? Then he says something about the elves perfecting the art of saying something but meaning another? Well what if CP has also mastered that art? Maybe Someone good will be named Ruler of Alagaesia and rename it! Thus, no-one will ever be in Alagaesia ever again! Like if someone walked into Uru-Baen and said "I'm visiting Ilirea"(the old elven city b4 Galby proclaimed himslef king). I think that it's likely because we all know that there is royal blood in Carvahall/Therinsford-thenewrider
Another theorie i have is: Eragon becomes king of Surda, OR eragon dies in surda-thenewrider
Thenewrider could be correct on the first theory, but I'm more for him going to Alalea- it seems slightly more likely, because, as said by a user (I believe it was Cate?) CP really doesn't have that much imagination, just talent for describing. And honestly, a twist like renaming Alagaesia for Eragon to be leaving just doesn't seem like something he would come up with.
*Runs from crazy fans yelling "Christopher Paolini has a GREAT imagination!*
--Claerwen, Rider of Argetia
Where did you get Alalea from? Also I dont think its got anything to do with Eragon... I think He may come across something to do with the people who made the ancient langauge. These people were known as "The grey people" as spoke of in Eldest. Maybe Eragon stumbles across something and in the end unlocks a key to the AL and defeats Galbatorix. Also What Of This God? It Could Be A God Crying On The Beach...- Lord Hibbert
I do believe that Eragon will leave Alagesia forever, in a sense. This is just a theroy of mine, that after reading these (and countless weak debates of countless other theories, for countless other subjects) theories I have thought mine through. I do think Eragon will be the one to smite Galbatorix. I do think that it will be Roran (if not than Nasuada) who takes the throne. Now my theory is, that at the end of the series, he joins with Arya not in marriage (because I'm not sure if elves practice that or not) but in love. And they leave Alagesia and enter Du Weldenvarden, not again coming out of the forest. Because, as I think, the Elven nation is not technically part of Alagaesia, seeing as it is ruled by a separate monarch. Even though some maps might show Du Weldenvarden as part of Alagesia, it's because they know not of what lies within it. -Jacob B.
I definately like that theory. At the moment, I can't think of any reason why that wouldn't work unless when Angela said "Your fate is to leave this land forever" she meant the actual landmass or if Du Weldenvarden becomes part of Alagaesia. Personally I can't see either of these things as true, but correct me irf I'm wrong. --ChrisTYbjartskular 19:32, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
What if Eragon dumps Arya for a goddess and leaves with her for another dimension altogether? She's a goddess so maybe she might have her own dragon. Preferably, silver.-Square'ead





