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Book Title
The title of book III is Brisingr, the AL word for fire. Many believe CP named it this because it's Eragon's true name.
- The Paolini International Ed. of Eragon stated that the second book would be "Eldest" and the third would be "Empire." Due to the change of publisher, this could change.--Spyderchan 21:52, 29 November 2006 (EST)
if the title isn't Empire (it probably will be) it could be Eridor. one of the dragon names Brom gave Eragon was Eridor, and it would fit the 6 letter starts with an E theme. just a thought. -Eringon
No NO NO. CP wouldnt name the third book something as close to the first. ERAGON-ERIDOR u see their to close and sound to similar. My money is on empire.--Eragon man 03:51, 17 March 2007 (GMT-5)
Well, Eridor is a good guess, but it didn't really come into play alot. If it was used more in the second and first books, then maybe. I think it's Empire.--Kystra 15:20, 17 March 2007 (GMT-5)
i also think it will be Empire, but Eridor was just an idea. i actually like the name Empire, and i hope it will be the title. - Eringon
I always thought Empire. But, CP could take the whole LOTR think of sons being named closed to their fathers (Arathorn to Aragorn). Well, maybe the rider of Eridor named a son or whatever after the dragon, and that eventually worked down to Evandar. If so, Arya could be related to the Eridor rider, and name her dragon after her relative/ relative's dragon. And the last dragon's name could make a good title. *I know it's a stretch* -americanfightingman
Galbatorix's (or more likely) Murtagh's name in the AL. Hear me out. Book 1 was named pretty obviously after the main character, Eragon. In Book 2 however, a twist is thrown in. Until Murtagh's secret was revealed at the end I thought 'Eldest' either referred to Roran or Oromis/Gaedr. I think that something simillar will happen in Book 3. The word will still be 6 letters beginning with E, but it will be used early on in a completely different context. I would bet it's the name of Eragon's new sword (the powerful weapon under the Menoa tree). The name in the AL theme seems way to important to the plot not to be used in Galbatorix's demise. And Paolini loves to use plays on words to describe characters (Eragon is dragon with the D changed to E, most of the dragon's names tell about their character, etc.). Finally 'Empire' serves no purpose, Alagaesia is already basically an empire, with Galbatorix as the emperor (or king, same thing). It would be stupid to name the book after something that gets crushed. Unfortunately I don't know what the word will be but it will be a play on words with either Galbatoix's or Murtagh's traits. - Baboo
Ummm.... Murtagh is Eldest, and he will be crushed... so there went that theory -americanfightingman
But Murtagh was victorious in Eldest, plus he was sort of brought into the lime-light. The empire has existed in a consistant fashion in the first 2 books and should fall in the last one. It just seems foolish to call it Empire, unless it was something like "Fall of the Empire" but then that wouldn't follow suit (and is also a cheesy title I realize). - Baboo
Ummmm... let me see... Roran will be setting up a new Empire (but a GOOD one), or Empire could be short for "Fall of the Empire"... AFM
What if Eridor is going to be the green dragon's name? Than CP would have a reason to make it the title.-Saphiraluvver
Thx, but that's what we were talking about.
thanks what i was thinking too although i like Ending Too.-bacon
as we have all by now figured out, the name is Brisingr, --ChrisTYbjartskular 01:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Christopher Paolini said (according to Book, Brisingr) that "Brisingr will be revealed to be even more meaningful than even Eragon could have known." I would bet that Brisingr is his true name. Too obvious? --Kabaka 07:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I have thought about that. I think brisingr might be his true name. You'll get better discussion on that in the vault of souls theories page. I had thought that it was going to be Empire, but obviously it's not, so what about the fourth book? Will CP go back to the E six letter thing or what?-Halfelven
Eragon's Fate
Leaving the Land Forever
Is Eragon going to leave Alagaesia? Yes!!! Angela's prophecy says that he will leave Alagaesia forever. I think i know what will happen at the end of book 3. Remember the chapter deathwatch in Eragon? Well in the very begining of that chapter eragon has a dream about two people taller than every one on a ship, arya and eragon, two dragons in the air, Saphira and the green dragon, and 1 person on the shore yelling. Now thats where i have some trouble with deciding who it is. I have two choices either Roran or Murtagh. Some people say that it probably is not Murtagh because only 3 people or something like that have survived their dragon's death. But who said Thorn was dead just because he wasn't in the image. another reason people say it is not murtagh is because why would he be crying out. hmmm maybe here's a thought,eragon and arya are leaving with their two dragons, and if galby is dead then that means that Murtagh has the last remaining dragon in Alagaesia. Roran makes sense too but not as much. if he was king of alagaesia and he was married to Katrina, no offense to eragon but why would he be crying out to him. I mean there are so many possible outcomes to this question i cant even explain them all.
If it is Roran screaming on the beach- he would probably only be screaming if the person Eragon was with was Katrina. THink about it. We know that some people in Palancar valley still have noble blood, maybe Katrina? Right now she is with the Ra' Zac, Who is to say that she won't be tested with the egg. This relationship as Angela said would certainly be epic because Eragon would be stealing Roran's love. ERagon would not love Katrina at first but if Saphire loves the green dragon then obviously Eragon and Katrina will have to. This makes me think that maybe it is Roran screaming on the beach, also i think it is too obvious for Arya to be the dragon rider- Chris!
I think that the two people on the beach could possibly be Arya and Murtagh. their descriptions both say they are taller than eragon, as does the dream say the two people are taller than the rest, and it is Eragon Screaming on the beach because Saphira dies on the final battle. It would be a pretty sucky ending but it could happen you know!~~ shurtugal1433
I really like that idea. I am a huge Arya/Murtagh shipper, and that would be cool. I would think it would be cool if Saphir a survived, and eragon died. Then, Roran confesses his love for Arya, and then Saphira bonds with Arya, so it is Roran on the beach, Arya and Murtagh on the ship, And Saphira and Thorn in the air. Greeny would have to die for some reason. --Kystra 09:41, 2 February 2007 (EST)
you all are evil people.#1 Eragon leaves with someone, not murtagh and Arya.#2 how would Saphira join with Arya #3 there has been a slight hint of murtagh and Nasuada, not anything with Arya and murtagh at all.oh and ME, Katrina isnt the next rider because if she will be the Queen, she cant also be the rider(same reason Roran cant). The reason Roranwould be screaming on the beach is because he is lossing his cousin forever-Leon
About the fact that Eragon is destined to leave Alagaesia forever. Maybe that will be because Alagaesia will have a new name, or because Eragon may go to Doru Araeba and be the new Rider King guy.... Or he could die....or something. -Your Lord and Master Aly (spelling edited by Enmire)
it cant be that the country's name simply changes, Angela said that he would leave the land forever, not leave Alagaesia forever-Leon
I think the dude screaming is Roran. Think, he probably doesn't want Eragon to leave, for different reasons including that Eragon is his cousin.-Saphiraluvver
Also, another reason is that he might want a Rider's help/support in ruling, if he does become king.-Anonymous
On the boat is Arya and Eragon I think (most people do) and in the sky are Arya's dragon (which according to my theory is NOT Greeny; see below at the name of Greeny if you want more of an explanation) and Saphira. On the beach is Roran because wouldn't you be sad if your cousin and his wife (thats another part of my theory) are leaving forever? And I do not believe the boat is going to Alelea, the ancient home of the elves. I think it's going to Vroengard, where Arya and Eragon are going (with Saphira's egg; yet another part of my theory- she had it with Thorn) to rebuild Doru Araeba and rebuild the Riders. So technically Eragon leaves Alagaesia forever. ~swenson~
Only Doru Araeba is part of Alagaesia.... kind of in the same way Hawaii is part of the United States.... it's just an island.... still part of the nation. AFM
You have a point. Vroengard/Doru Araeba is technically part of Alagaesia. They would have to go somewhere else... unless... what if the part Eragon saw was not when they left the land, but they go to Vroengard, reinstate the Riders, and leave from there!That just might make sense, tell me if it does.-Saphiraluvver
swenson umm y would there be a man yellin on the beach if their just goin 2 Vroengard -Patteh
But what if they left from Vroengard 2 wherever they were gonna go, like some other country after reinstating the Riders?-Saphiraluvver
Eragon will have to leave alagaesia eventually, correct me if im wrong, but i cant remember it saying anywhere that eragon's dream was associated with him leaving alagaesia-
Yeah you have a point there. I guess everybody assumed that that dream depicted him leaving because of the ship and the screaming guy, although the book might have said that Eragon thought that the dream showed him leaving. I would have to check.-Halfelven
Finishing His Training
Will Eragon go back to Oromis to complete his training? I've been waiting to explain this to everyone and now i finally have the chance!!!! Eragon will have to go back to Ellesmera eventually because wont the new rider need training from Oromis even if the rider is Arya. If the rider is Arya, i think that she would be able to start were Eragon left off. And that is a good reason for her to be the next rider. But then again say if the rider was like Orik. That would mean that eragon could help the Varden out while Orik was getting trained. Eragon and Roran could try and rescue Katrina and also build up another part of the Varden Army. Eragon could also teach roran magic and then Roran could head Du Vrangr Gata. Another reason Eragon would need to back to Ellesmera is pretty obvious if you think about the chapter Eldest from eldest... to get a new sword. So to answer my own question YES i do think that eragon will go back to ellesmera to complete his training.
-Honestly, I thought I read somewhere that said he would ever return to Du Weldenvarden again.-Chloe
oromis made eragon and saphira promise to return to complete there training in the ancient langguage so obviously they will-cody
I have a feeling that Oromis will die before Eragon's training is completed because he was becoming so ill he couldn't even do the Rimgar with Eragon as usual.-Earthe
he said that it was the celebration that took his strength, and that he would recover. Eragon's future is to leave Alagaesia forever, but Angela never said when he would leave.Of course Eragon will go back for his taining and even if Oromis dies there is a slight chance that Gleadr will survive and continue to teach.-Leon
No Glaedr would die if Oromis dies. Brom said in the beginning of Eragon (when he's talking to Eragon) that when a Rider dies, their dragon dies. ~swenson~
Usually dies.... not does die..... Shruikan proves that. AFM
Plus that was only said in the movie the books dont mention that. -Patteh
Yeah, but as someone (emm . . . can't remember who and can't find either copies of Eragon or Eldest) said somewhere (ditto) something like (must find those books) 'when your dragon dies, it is as if half of you dies with it.' And apparantly what really kills the survivor is the intense lonliness and emotional turmoil of losing a part of yourself. -don't hold me to this. . . must find books. Oh, and jump in anytime with names and book titles here, people-HEB
that was Oromis during Eragons training, and he said that the reason the other dies is because of the feeling of part of you dying-Leon
Attempting to get back on topic here, I agree with Cody. Eragon and Saphira swore in the ancient language that they would return. Therefore, they have to. Also, I think that what HEB said is right. If your dragon dies, it leaves you in emotional turmoil. To some degree it's like a family member dying, but more it's as if part of yourself has been torn away. The thing about dragon dies, you don't, you die, dragon does was just in the movie, as far as I remember.-Halfelven
What is eragon and saphira are prevented from going to elesmera
The Next Dwarf King
The new Dwarf King this is a pretty easy theory to explain. the dwarves will not want a dragon favored king at first. i think that eventually they will pick one because if they are against the dragons then the Varden will not look at them as allies. I think that Orik will end up as the new king. Besides him being the heir to Hrothgar the dwarves will look at him as the best possible canidate. He is friendly with dragons and is not scared of them and i think that is most important because if the dwarves get attacked by the empire and the dwarves are not friendly with the dragons then the Varden will not come immediately to help. it is also possible that CP will make someone not introduced yet the new dwarf king. If the dwarves do not like orik then it would not be smart to choose him as king because then the clans will be divided. So far i have no definite answer for this theory but most likely i think that orik will be the next dwarf king.
1. Orik cannot become a rider because he is a dwarf and only humans and elves are part of the spell
2. Orik will be an unlikely candinate at first but then Eragon and Saphira will repair Isidar Mithrim and than more dwarves will lend their support
3. the dwarves refuse to listen to each however they will listen to Eragon
-random person who finds some of these theories painful
Our choices for the new dwarf king are pretty much just Orik (new leader of Durgrimst Ingeitum), Gannel (the leader of Durgrimst Quan), the leader of Az Sweldn Whatchamacallit, or the guy who Eragon and Arya and Orik stayed with in Tarnag. Gannel and the last one are really unlikely. So I think there will be a split between Orik and the leader of the Tears of Anhuin clan. But Saphira will heal Isidar Mithrim and so they will all vote for Orik. ~swenson~
Small prob the Tears of Anhuin isnt a CLAN.K-dog
there are more then thoses tribes there are 14... -Patteh
also i think it will be Gannel, the dwarf people will want a fighter, and probally someone religious in this time or hope for their people. -Patteh
Some of Broms last words were something like "don't lose your dragon, your life wont be worth to live anymore"
Swenson, that clan's whole name was Az Sweldn Rak Anhuin, if you really couldn't think of it. I personally think that it will be Orik. It seems like CP wouldn't have made him such a main character if he wasn't going to be king.-Halfelven
Is Murtagh evil?
HE'S NOT EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I still don't think Murtagh is EVIL! That means that Thorn isnt either... Its like saying that if Galbatorix got control of Eragon, then Eragon would be evil. Dont you have to be willing to do something bad to be evil? -Lena (spelling and punctuation edited by Enmire)
well Murtagh did swear loyalty to Galbitorix in the Ancient Language and I'm sure so did Thorn.... i'm sure even if they both decided to appose Galbitorix breaking their oath. The dwarves won't trust him beacause he killed Hrothgar.
so what murtagh swore loyalty, in case you can't read he was tortered and finaly had to swear loyalty.
But, Galby already knows eragon's true name, so wouldn't that mean that galbatorix has control over eragon, but we still consider him good.
actally, GAlbatorix does NOT know Eragons true name, or else Galbatorix would already have Eragon under his power.- aramantar
Ummm, just to clarify (this confused me too), when Murtagh says at the end how Galbatorix knows "our true names," he's not talking about Eragon and himself, he's talking about him and Thorn. If he did know Eragon's name, then what Aramantar said would happen. --Enmire 23:57, 24 November 2006 (EST)
I think that Murtagh may be able to kill galby even if he has sworn loyalty to him in the ancient language; he could just say he was "saving Galbatorix from himself". Crazy i know, but i want Murtagh to come back to the good side. --Compleatly-eragon-obsessed.
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BUT IT IS AN GOOD IDEA AND IS SO CRAZY IT JUST MIGHT WORK.
If Thorn, Saphira and the green dragon unite against Galbatorix, they will be the 3 primary colors of light: red, green, and blue. These form white, which is the OPPOSITE of black! They could defeat Galbatorix in this way, right? So maybe Murtagh will find a loop-hole, or break his vows. (galby has the sterngth to restructure the ancient language, right? maybe he'll leave a loophole.) --sldk
I find that horribly painful to read. I don't think Murtagh will be albe to escape from Galbatorix, he will die for Eragon or something, however much I hate it.--Kystra 10:09, 21 April 2007 (PDT)
sorry but i really believe that murtagh will be smart enogh to find a loop hole and escape. besides he has a dragon that can help him.
First of all i guess that you didnt pay attention in art, the primary colors are red, blue, and YELLOW. So there goes your theory down the drain.--Eragon man 15:33, 21 April 2007 (PDT)
I said the colors of LIGHT, not the colors in art. Big difference. But it still makes sense. --sldk
I know CP can be insanely cheesy, but I don't think he will have them join forces with 'the clors of light' and form white to oppose black like something out of Power Rangers.--Kystra 08:21, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
Primary colors of light: Red blue and green Primary colors of pigment: Red blue and yellow (technically magenta, cyan, and amber) That's TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cheesy. I think simple sword in dragons gut then wizard duel with Galby will be how it goes. AFM
I think Murtagh isn't exactly evil, but not really good... you know, kind of caught between two worlds or something. In my fanfiction (which is totally not real, but I like it!) Thorn actually likes Saphira (figure that one out) and so he finds some loophole that allows him to become good. Murtagh is still caught between his vows and Thorn and finally figures out some way to break his vows and becomes good. However, I think that in the final battle between Galbatorix and the good Dragon Riders Murtagh will die. Sadly.
well either thorn or greenys gonna die unless saphria dies which as we kno wont happen(hopefully) and i think it will be thorn that dies and with thorn dying either a loophole will arise or the oath will just end.
Well, personally, I have scrapped the idea of Murtagh breaking out of Galbatorix's control; One, it is clearly stated that one's true name holds complete control over any person, object, energy etc, and it is impossible to break free of that power. Two, unless there is some way to obliterate the knowledge of Murtagh and Thorn's true name from Galbatorix's mind (this would, in all probability be absolutely impossible because if anyone with the ability to use magic was near enough to our dear friend Galby to use this most-likely truly abstract form of magic, they would be as good as dead anyway), even if they did manage to break free from this hypothetical loop-hole, couldn't Galbatorix just utilize their true names again to obtain power over them and close this nonexistant loop-hole? In response to the entry above this, a loop-hole would not open on the occasion of Thorn's death because, sadly enough, Murtagh would probably not suvive this occurance and even if he did, Galbatorix knows his true name--Instant Murtagh Domination. I think that Murtagh will play a significant role in the death of the current King of Alagaesia, but not openly or through actual violence or disobedience to his coercing master. At least, that is as optimistic as I dare become on this subject. Dang, I talk too much.ChrisTYbjartskular 16:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't think murtagh is willingly evil, Galbatorix has control of him so the only way for him to be freed from galby's control would have to be with galbatorix dying, no? If for some weird reason Galbatorix dies before Murtagh does then Murtagh would no longer be evil...also if Eragon were to find out Murtagh's true name, who would have control of Murtagh..Galbatorix or Eragon?-Anonymous
If, like you say, Eragon was to find out Murtagh's true name, I wonder that the opposing forces pulling on Murtagh wouldn't destroy him. I really hope not. --ChrisTYbjartskular 18:46, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
Greeny's Name
what would greeny's name be? something having to do with emerald? jade? or an elven name?-rae
Although Eragon names saphira after a blue stone (saphire-Saphira), that does not mean that the name of the green dragon must be gem related. Two excellent examples of this would be Thorn and Shruikan. Murtaghs dragon, however red he is, was not named after a ruby or some other precious stone, but a part of a plant. And Shruikan, black as night, was not named coal, but after a Japanese throwing blade. So really, the name of the green dragon could be anything from Aiedail (the elven name for the Morning Star) to Eggnog (a delicious holiday drink). --Enmire 23:28, 22 November 2006 (EST)
I would like to add to this that thorns are found on the red flower called the Rose. Therefore it would make perfect sense for him to be named Thorn.-- Sari 12:08, 23 November 2006
And I would like to add that even though a thorn is found on a rose, it is still not the color red, nor are all roses red. --Enmire 00:01, 25 November 2006 (EST)
Name of the Green Dragon-Emerald? i know its a girls name but i went on google.com and googled name origins and i found this site that had emerald as a name. it had a lot of things about it but one thing stood out to me, it said that it imparts love, and isn't that what Saphira and Eragon really need? A person or dragon to love. Oh, and by the way who said male dragons couldn't be named girl names? -Eragon1
hmm...the green dragons name could also be the name of someone the rider loves most, or it could be "green" in the ancient language.There are all sorts of possibilities-Ayra Slate
weird if it became faolin or grape j.k grape-tshahi10
Whatever Greenys name is, it will have something to do with the dragon. Thorn was evil, so he has a name that suites him. Saphira was named after Brom's dragon, and Brom was a mentor to Eragon and Saphira. Greeny, depending on his allinement, physical features, personality, or mentors, will have a name that suites him. --Kystra 16:07, 19 December 2006 (MST)
I think the green dragons name will be blade! as in a blade of grass, and a blade as a weapon! that'd be cool!~~dan
Someone who has yet to be introduced is Horst and Elains third child. -Anonymous user
I don't follow you. --Kystra 13:04, 1 February 2007 (EST)
Anonymous user, what does Horst and Elain's third child have to do with green dragon names? anyways, i think the green dragon's name will be Eridor. in book 1, one of Eragon's top names for Saphira before he knew she was a girl dragon was Eridor. (Eridor was one of the names Brom gave him) this would be a good choice for a name because it has six letters and starts with and E. it would kind of fit in with CP's titles for the books. -Eringon
Thats actually a somewhat reasonable idea, unlike alot of random ideas I have seen on here. But, personaly, the name sounds wimpy to me. --Kystra 14:27, 3 February 2007 (EST)
Remember the third dragon is supposed to be a boy? I don't think that the Eridor thing has much of a bases or that it would really fit. It's a good idea, but I don't see enough evidence to have any real idea what the dragon's name would be-Ardra
I like the name Eridor. But I don't see how it could be named after Horst and Elains third child. Blade sounds cool, but its a little random... ~~Saphrina~~
i think the person who wrote about Horst and Elains third child wrote their theory in the wrong spot. i also like the name Blade, but i agree, it's a bit random. - Eringon
i dought it would be anything we can guess right now, and if it is,it would be obvious. i had thought of the origoinal names and figured it would be one of the ones like Eridor-Leon
Murtagh named his dragon Thorn for a reason. He talked about how roses are beautiful but thorns cause pain. He then said Thorn and Zar'roc (misery in the Ancient Language) are perfectley suited names for each other. Greeny's name could be symbolic to Arya (I hope she's the rider). Eridor maybe; assuming Greeny is a girl (or feminine) and it is connected to Arya somehow. Blade seems a little far-fetched, if not random.-hawkeye8
The green dragon, or Greeny, is Male. That is why Saphira hasn't been killed. Galbatorix wants to rebuild the riders, and he can't really do that without some serious surguries with all male dragons. Also, that is what Murtagh said, Saphira was the last female dragon, and Thorn and the Green egg where males.--Kystra 22:00, 19 March 2007 (GMT-5)
also you mentioned that murtagh named Thorn, not likly. remember that Eragon had to figure out what Saphira'same was. he never named Saphira, nor do i think a dragon would just let you name it something besides its name-Leon
A dragon is told it's name before it hatches by it's parents. The rider needs to find out what that name is. Murtagh may have come up with that name, and asked if that Was Thorn's name, but not outright name him.--Kystra 23:45, 20 March 2007 (GMT-5)
It says that Muragh named his dragon. Galbotorix named his dragon Shurikan, and Saphira was a name that was ironic because of Brom's dragon's name was Saphira. It doesn't make sense that a dragon comes pre-named before it is hatched.-hawkeye8
i would like to point out that Eridor isn't a girl dragon name. Eragon tried to name Saphira that at the beginning of Eragon, but Saphira didn't like it because it was the name of a boy dragon. - Eringon
It doesn't matter if it makes sence, CP wrote it! </Sarcasm> But That is what it says. I belive Orimis says that when Eragon and He are discussing Galbatorix.--Kystra 23:46, 21 March 2007 (GMT-5)
Eridor is a boys name, the last dragon egg is male, how does that not make sence-Leon
I think it's either Eridor, because it has six letters and would make a fitting title, or Arya may name it after someone close to her: possibly Faolin, but I would guess Evandar if she takes that point of view (for y'all who don't remember, that's her pappy's name. -americanfightingman
Oh. Reading that mad me shutter. Please do not use words like 'Pappy'. Also, it has not been said if Arya will get the egg! Or that ARya had a relatonship with Faolin, both are teories. As for naming it to someone close to the person the egg hatches for, it may happen. But, it really depends on greeny. SOem names just don't fit. Saphira wiould have never gotte the name Ashley, it doesn't fit her personality. The only way we can have any plausible theories is if we have more information.--Kystra 17:47, 27 March 2007 (PDT)
Okay, Arya is the most obvious thing in the whole trilogy. I used pappy because I felt like being different, and If CP had named Saphira "Ashley", U'd be used to it so the name would fit her. ARYA can pretty much name greeny whatever and it will fit because we're used to it (as long as it's not happy, or sleepy, or dopey) -AFM (this is how I'm signing from now on... short for americanfightingman)
I have stated this before, The egg is told it's name before it hatches, and the rider just has to discover that name. The rider really has no choice whatsoever. Also, honestly, can you imagine someone with the name like 'Ashley', or 'Bill' in Alagaesia? They just don't fit the time period or the personalitys.--Kystra 15:16, 3 April 2007 (PDT)
Hey Leon, can u please answer the question about the dragon. You typically seem to know where things are. Krysta, quote it for me. And if Eragon was Bill, Roran was Bob, and Arya was Katrina (with all others kinda like it) U WOULDN'T CARE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR USE TO!!!! THAT WAS MY WHOLE POINT!!!!!! -AFM
I'm sorry, I could not read a book in which the characters are named things like that. Even if we were used to it, It would seem a bit odd. 'Bob knelt in a bed of trampled reed grass and scanned the tracks with a practiced eye.' That just seems to read a little rough. My point is that the name would be something to do with the Dragon, not some random name. If the third dragon was named Garrett, then the book would seem a little bit odd. The name would not only have to fit the dragon, it would also have tofit the time period!--Kystra 17:22, 3 April 2007 (PDT)
True. Evandar or Erriodor would fit a dragon, just from the general personality. Remember that Saphira only fits because of the color. Faolin would be a little farfetched though, unless we know what Faolin really was like. -AFM
I don't think any of the suggested names fit (no offense to anyone, I understand that it is what you think) I think Erindor and Evandar sound a bit, I don't know, old and LOTR. I agree with AFM that Faolin is a bit farfetched, maybe hurt Eragon's feelings and reveal to much about Arya and Blade sounds to POWER RANGERS. (I do NOT watch Power Rangers)I think that there is a name that is just escaping all of us although I actually like Garrer even if it is quite obvious that it is not Greeny's name. I know CP will choose a good name, so long as it isn't called Greeny it's fine.--Mel
i think it is another,older, dragon's name, or somthing that is not in the books at all. AFM, what question about the dragons were you refering to?-Leon
I didn't actually suggest Garrett seriously. It was to make a point. The name will have something to do with the dragon, not the dragon's rider. And about Erindor and Evander sounding LOTR, CP is alreay pushing his luck with names, he wont be stupid enough to get in a huge lawsuit with publisers of LOTR.--Kystra 06:44, 8 April 2007 (PDT)
Leon, I meant if they are given names when laid (in the egg, not the other...) or if they pick a name they like themselves, or if they are given names. And Kystra, what names are pushing a lawsuit with LOTR. Galbatorix is nothing like Sauron, Eragon (Dragon with an e instead of a d) is kinda close to aragorn, but not close enough to a lawsuit, and none of the elves are close to Legolas, nor the dwarves Gimli (though I think he does copy balin...) AFM
Still, if one of the names seemed like something that was even metioned in a randomly overheard confersation, because a lot of things in Eragon are very similar to LOTR.--Kystra 19:49, 10 April 2007 (PDT)
Hey, I reread the parts containing Eragon, and somewhere Arya mentioned what I assumed to be their main star... I think it was Eridel. Arya is MOST LIKELY going to be the rider. Wouldn't it kinda be fit for her to name it that, since she is an Elf (just a thought). AFM -- and it would be a title for the book. AFM again... added later.
Nice one AFM. --Svits 18:50, 21 April 2007 (PDT)sVITS
i have to say very nice find, where does it say that.--Eragon man 07:58, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
Yah, A page number would be nice.--Kystra 08:23, 22 April 2007 (PDT)
It was in eldest, which I don't have access too. She said something like "we should get going. Eridel has already set. It was around when they were leaving Farthen Dur and about to enter the tunnel I THINK. I read every part for Eragon in that book in a day when I noticed it, so I'm not sure. AFM
What are you trying to find? The definition of Eridel? Or where arya mentioned that word?
where she mentioned the word.-Eragon Shadeslayer
I found it..... It won't work.... I was a little off..... It was Aelidel or Aeladel or Aeledel (u get my point) AFM
Ok i found something that would make sence for a name. Seeing as eragon named his dragon after a previous dragon, y not another? so i went looking and found something, the names that brom gave eragon at the begining. Fundor, it was the name of the GREEN dragon that slaid the sea serpant. so if were going from that angle, then it would fit.Pluse it does have 6, yes 6 letters.--Eragon man 16:17, 11 May 2007 (PDT)
But I don't think the name would be usd again. And AFM, do you mean Aiedail?--Kystra 08:05, 12 May 2007 (PDT)
Yeah, I didn't have my book when I typed it..... And I still think greeny's name will start with e and have six letters IF the book ISN'T named empire. AFM
I am okay with the e and three latters for a name, as long as is doesn't end up as some presious jem thats green. I will hunt donw CP of he does that.--Kystra 06:43, 13 May 2007 (PDT)
Only precious green gem I can think of is Emerald, which doesn't fit. I'm looking through my dictionary and putting down all english words (until I get really bored) that have six letters (I'm not doing plurals or propers or past though): eaglet, earful, earing, earthy, ear wax, ear wig, this is taking forever c y'all. AFM
that might not be the best of ideas. CP could just make it the name of the dragon, in which case it would not be in the dictionary.(plus theres way to many), and it would do no good because all it is doing is telling us all the 6 letter words that start with "e", if you want to do something try eliminating some of those words-Leon
I know this isn't true of all dragons, but all the currently hatched ones have names that are in the dictionary or VERY VERY VERY close to it. Saphira is right off of saphire, thorn is thorn, and shruikan is a type of, well... I always used to call em the ninja throwey thingies. AFM
what about Glaedr-Leon
Forgot about him..... Glaedr is kinda like Glaeder which would make the same sound as Glider??? Or maybe Glade...... or maybe an exception.... good point. Still, 3/4 isn't bad odds. AFM
Personally, I think the third dragon will be named Eridor and that will be the title of the book. And for all those who do not think Arya would name it that, here's my theory- Arya isn't the green dragon's Rider! I have a slightly complicated theory involving Shruikan and the Ra'zac where there's actually a fourth egg that Galbatorix has kept hidden all these years and Arya ends up with that one. Or at least that's how it works in my fanfiction. ~swenson~
Actually, the star's name is Aiedail. --I Believe 16:00, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
Can i give yall a little advice, yall are looking in the wrong dictionary. Its not comming out of the english one, the entire AL is in Icelandish. thats the one yall should look in.--Eragon man 18:48, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
Um, may I make a quick grammatical point? The correct name for the "ninja throwy thingys" are S-H-U-R-I-K-A-N-S, (sure-i-kins) whereas Galby's dragon's name is S-H-R-U-I-K-A-N, (shrew-kin). Sorry, but that was gonna bother me I have a slight case of OCB (obsessive compulsive behavior.)-Saphiraluvver
Yeah, but the nija-throwey things are still gonna be where the name was derived from.... kinda like Eragon was from Dragon...... he changes letters around a bit... big deal. AFM
Sorry. I didn't think about that.-Saphiraluvver
I tried an online translation thing from English to Icelandic and put in 'morning star.' I did not get Aiedail. i got 'morgunstjarna' That didn't match up to the AL at all. --ChrisTYbjartskular 22:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
OK we had thought that it was a green dragon on the third book cover, but it turned out to be Glaedr, so is Greeny gonna be on the fourth book's cover or what?-Halfelven
i lurrrve the name blade-but do u really think CPs going read that an think so too? eridor fits good.-Link
