The Third Dragon (Theories)
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Now what I think and the reason that I created the page was because there has to be some connection between the dragons just like there is a connection between the riders. Now what I think first of all is that the green dragon will be named after the green dragon that defeated the sea serpent. Now also I think that the male dragons are decended from the original Eragon's dragon. The books never say that the males cant be related somehow but it's just a thought. Now we know that the two male riders are related at least by being half brothers if not more so why does it not just make sense that the dragons are related?--User:Editor 10:24, 8 June 2007 (PST)
Just had an odd idea, what if the green dragon is not from galbatorix's last egg, but is a survivor of the fall? -Leon
Exactly, I mean, WHO said that the unhatched dragon was even to BE green? There are other colors you know.... like purple(somewhat likely), orange(not so much), brown(definately not), silver(interseting!), or even another gold, black, red, or blue even though they aren't so likely!! -Editor
It's also possible that the gender of the dragon is determined by the colour. Brom had a blue female dragon, just like Eragon. Perhaps the green colour signifies a male dragon ? - privsy
What if when Eragon and Roran are at hellgrind saving katrina they find the egg what better place to keep it, than with the rasac in a mountain (witch is revealed as a fake by the way in the exerpt) in the middle of the empire. Although the only thing is that the only safer place is under his mattress witch he probably checks everynight sence brom stoled the other one. but thats wat makes this idea possible brom stole it from (i cant remember the name)and not Urubain.
That's a good idea both of you. I like it. -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
You know what i never thought about that its an idea. I cant remember but didnt it ever truly mention all three eggs colors or not im blank right now. um but that would propose an dramatic twist i think that i could happen but highly unlikey.--Eragon man 03:12, 17 March 2007 (GMT-5)
That would be interesting if it isn't Galbatorix's last egg.
We know that Galby has an egg, but does it ever really say that it's a green egg. Good thought. I'd say improbable, but it'd be a nice twist AFM
Cool thought but it would have to be a dragon egg and where would that egg be and how would they find it?If you don't mean an egg then who and where is the rider?I still like the idea though.--Mel 16:35, 7 April 2007 (PDT)Mel
it could be someone loike Oromis, or they could just be waiting for the right time.-Leon
but it damages the credibility of CP's previous writing and makes us think that many riders are tucked away in the countryside after the fall. and they woulda kept in touch, so Oromis woulda gotten another one to help teach Eragon since Oromis was so sick. AFM
I doubt that Afm. Galbatorix's rage against the riders was intense, and even if some Riders did survive the onslaught, Galbatorix would have probably hunted them down over the years after the fighting at Doru Arabea (Riders' island) where most of the Riders were probably killed. Samuss
i was re-reading Eldest and came across an interesting thought. during the chapter Broken Eggs and Scattered Nests, when saphira gets into a fight with glaedr... eragon goes to saphira, she is at an old nesting place of the dragons, and eragon finds a fragment of a green dragon egg. and i thought well if the dragon had hatched hundreds of years ago the shell would have lost its color. am i right? otherwise there would have been colored egg fragments all over the stone/mountain. so there is a possibility that the egg has hatched and someone is keeping it secret! --ty 10:02, 11 April 2007 (PDT)eragon1301
I remember reading that part of the book and thinking, why did it have to be a green fragment of egg? Yep, that would make a really good twist to the plot. -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
Now you make a good point there, scientificly your right but in the mind of CP we really dont know. But i think that galbatoix would have thrown a fit about it cause remember that he had 3 eggs and yea.--65.216.40.75 20:25, 11 April 2007 (PDT)
The egg may not be gabby's, it is a nesting ground of the dragons... so if there was an egg that was not found when the elves raided then it could work. but its just a theorie we wont kno till the third book comes out. --ty 08:32, 12 April 2007 (PDT)eragon1301
Samuss, I was using that to counter what someone said, saying that there could only be Oromis left. Now, that dragon would've been wild, and would not matter anything to the war. Plus, the dragons are magical beings, so there is no garuntee on what science will do to their eggshells. And who said that there aren't other fragments not mentioned?? AFM
that definatly wont work.that is not where the eggs are hatched, even though it is a breeding ground. remember when Eragon, Saphira, and Orik were on their way to Surda they saw a mountain in the Hadarac dessert that you learned was the place where dragons were born, and eventually died-Leon
true.--ty 15:24, 12 April 2007 (PDT)eragon1301
then why would there be a dragon shell there?-Bacon
who knows, it could be any number of reasons, for instance, it could of been a old rider's dragon egg, and he decided to hatch his dragon in thier old nesting ground.-Leon
i agree completly with eragon 1301. that part of the book mentions that all the scales in the stone of broken eggs had lost there colour, and the book didnt mention any other bits of egg so im pretty positive that the green dragon is either living by itself some where in the wild, or somewhere, some child (for whatever reason) is hiding the fact that he/she is a rider.
I don't believe it, although there is no real evidence contradicting it. AFM
Well, yeah, it's possible and could be probable. I agree with both theories! --Svits 18:13, 15 April 2007 (PDT)Svits
i agree with AFM, why would there be another dragon rider out there! i don't know, it just doesn't make any sense to me.-Bacon
dragon scales and dragon eggs are two different things, no one said that a dragon eggs color faded over time.-Leon
good point, i was thinking that, but i wasn't certain.-Bacon
Personally, I think the only reason C.P. put the egg frag in there was because Eragon stepped on it. If you look in Eragon pg. 24, the trader Merlock says that Saphira's egg is harder that diamond. Now I'm no geologist, but diamonds do not lose their color over time. Samuss
The only thing which dragon eggs have in common with diamonds is their simailar level of hardness. So, why are you saying that a hatched dragon egg wouldn't lose its colour over time ("because they are like diamonds") when diamonds are clear gemstones which reflect light and have no colour similarities with dragon eggs? -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
that and a little foreshadowing of a green dragon to be born.-bacon
is there any place in the book saying the next dragon egg will be male? If not it might be girl and and mate with thorn.- the very very wise
yea, Murtagh says that the dragon in the last dragon egg is male. that saphira is the last female dragon.--eragon1301
that and CP also said that it was male. and that's also why the varden want it so bad so they will have dragon to mate with Saphira.-bacon
I think that the varden just want it. i dont think that they would care wether it was male or female.--eragon1301
Very true, but who WOULDN'T want a dragon egg? (retorical question) -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
Back to the original thing about a uncontrolled rider out there, that would add a twist to the book. A self-trained elf rider rescuing Eragon from Murtagh/non-friendly Urgals/Galbatorix's men/Rasaac.... kinda fits. Unlikely, but it kinda fits..... AFM
I have to admit, that has to be one of my favourite theories for the third book. If there was one dragon+rider on the good side (the varden/elves/ect.), one on the bad side (Galbatorix/ect.), AND a "rebel" rider, both sides would have to fight even harder to convince that rider to join them. Plus, everyone reading the book would be saying, "NO!!!!!!! Don't join Galbatoix's army!!! We want another good rider!!!" Or something like that. -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
I doubt it's going to happen.... but if it did... IT WOULD BE SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! AFM
sorry Spirt_of_the_Dragons_Lost, but there are two evil dragon riders, and one good one.-bacon
Sorry, I didn't make my point clear enough. I meant that there would be One good and one bad rider from the next generation of riders. eg. Saphira+Eragon,Murtagh+Thorn. -Spirit_of_the_Dragons_Lost
Well its the way u look at it. I dont think Muratgh is evil, only forced to do evil things. Galby doesnt really have anyone truely and sincerely loyal to him (of course there are the misfits out there but they arent important). Murtagh and Thorn are against Galby but he made them swear fealty to him. As you could see with Durza (In Gillead when he was talking to Eragon in his cell). I think most of the soldiers are only loyal to Galby when he has the power to blast them to ity bity goey bits.- the very very wise
But he's still doing bad deeds, which makes him, essentially, evil. AFM
i don't know. if he is under mind control (sort of with that whole true name thing) then he isn't evil, just what he's doing is. there is a difference.-Eragon Shadeslayer
Murtagh has already expressed that he doesnt approve of evil. He has to do what Galby tells him to. He wont kill himself because he values his and Thorn's bond. Personally I dont think Eragon would sacrafice himself either but we might never know.- the very very wise
i don't think Murtagh is evil, but i think that he likes the power that he gets by being with gabby. that is why he is not jumping on the idea that eragon and arya can try and reverse his bonds to gabby. there is that hint of lust.--eragon1301
Murtagh is just a representation of temptation. The story of Adam and Eve could be used as a metaphor. Eve (Murtagh) wasn't "evil" she was mezmerized by the serpents (Galbatorix) fantasies and dreams. Eve (Murtagh) was tempted with power. Unlike Eve though Murtagh was forced to do evil things. He falsely supports galby.- the very very wise
nicely put, i like your metaphor.--eragon1301
In tht perspective, I might add, it links back to the theory of catechism.- the very very wise
Back to the green dragon egg... may I point out that no where is the third dragon egg described as green? We only assume that because the book will have a green dragon on it. But what if the green dragon is NOT in the third egg? According to a very long, drawn-out strange theory I have involving Shruikan, the Ra'zac and Arya, there's actually TWO dragon eggs left- the one described as "the third dragon egg" and the green one. Arya ends up with the third dragon egg, which is actually the egg of Shruikan's mate. The green dragon egg is not in the hands of Galbatorix. In fact, it's not an egg at all! I believe it is a fully-grown mature wild dragon somewhere in the wild, perhaps in the Spine. He and Saphira become mates. I told you it's a complicated theory. ~swenson~
That's a very wild theory, but you never know, it could happen... --I Believe 12:30, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
You dip, it has already been stated by CP himself the the last egg will be green.--Eragon man 18:36, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
For anyone who does not believe that Greeni is the next dragon: each book's cover has one of Galby's three eggs/(now someone's dragon) on the cover so since Greeni's on the cover of the third he has to be the third egg it would match the pattern if Paolini had gone by importance Glaedr should have been on the cover of the second but Thorn is on it and he's the second egg that hatches
i really think that there will be a lone dragon, greenie as u guys call it and no other dragons mabye at the end when galby is overthrown one might hatch for roran but not arya. but anyways if scales change colour and dull then and egg would 2 right it makes sense and if u read that part of the book it makes u think that the egg hasnt been there long. im not sayin i kno how it got there (its anyones guess) but i dont think that the final egg will hatch in galbys posessions or that Shrukin will mate, it seams that if galby dies the black magic will go with him and end the black dragons life. P.S. sign ur work -Patteh
i think i might have figured out the problem with wether or not the piece of dragon shell was new or not. scales are part of a living thing, similare to our skin. if a piece of skin were to be removed from us, it would lose its color due to lack of bloodflow.it would probably be similare or exactly the same with a dragon. also, the egg could have had propeties of the ceramic tiles on the history wall in tarnag, the ones that dont fade.-Leon
if ur gonna treat dragons like other animals then wouldnt their eggs decompose? -Patteh
Well if they were chicken eggs yes. But we have to compare dragon eggs to a similiar real animal if we are going to do it at all.... Dinosaurs. There are dinosaur eggs around today. Besides, the Dragons are magical creatures adn the eggshell would have special properties to protect the dragon which could theoretically stay in the egg for thousands of years until conditions were ideal. I would be seriously suprised if that magical a container did decomose at all.... it's essentially a rock. AFM
those dinosaur eggs were preserved by whatever happend (lets not get into discussin that) but he found a fragment of an egg and it wasnt burried. -Patteh
the point is a dragon egg could withstand thousands of years to keep a baby dragon safe, so why would it be different for a broken dragon egg-Leon
because also there werent any other peices their that eragon noticed and im sure he wouldve noted if their were lots of them. -Patteh
Elves coulda picked them up for crafts or whatever and just missed that piece. AFM and if that wasn't what u were trying to say then speak in complete sentances so the rest of us understand what you're trying to ask. AFM
dude wat is ur problem read the sentence b4 and then read mine... u can read, cant u? -Patteh
My bad.... I was tired as heck when I wrote that..... Makes almost perfect sense now.... Sorry. AFM
its all good. -Patteh
So does anyone think this new dragon will be evil? That'd be interesting! 3 on ... well 1 and 1/2(As Glaedr(sp?) is missing an important fighting body part).
Editor
But he's noticeably older than Shruikan.... I'd say AT LEAST 30 years.... Dragons keep growing you know..... Saphira and Thorn and Greeny could proabably fit in his mouth (that's an exageration.... but only slight) AFM
Glaedr alot older than Shruiken than 30 years ( I hope that makes sence). Oromis said he was on the council when Galby asked for another egg. The dragon riders would probably never let a....lets say 45 (I'm assuming potential dragon riders were 15 then plus 30 years for the dragon) years old dragon rider join the council. If you think about it Arya is 120 years old i believe. Yet she looks like she is 17. Although Arya does have an improtant position and i realize that, there were tons of other dragon riders to pick thana 45 year old. This all makes sence if u take the time to really read it. I would say Gladre would at least be a 100-150 years older than Shruiken.-the very very wise
Arya is 100(about), galby is 115(about) and i would put Glaedr at about 300, but that last one is just speculation on my part-Leon
np wait, galby would be closer to 150-Leon
id say that it would make an interesting twist but i think the next rider will be on Eragons side thats probaly cause i think it will be Roran so thats my cause for thinking it will be on this side. If the next rider is against eragon and Oromis and Glaedr on his side it will still be a matched fight but Galbatorix will still be in the stronger side for of Oromis' weakness he really can only perform the smallest of spells remember
